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Started by Jojo, 02 May 2021 06:15

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Jojo

I was playing yesterday on AMG server and there was a guy who having 60 kills and 0 deaths. Some people in game including some random player in my squad complaint to admin (there was one admin too in game i don't remember his name) that guy was cheating as its obvious from kills 60 K and 0 Death. admin said report that player or spec him. one guy said to admin that you can spec him its your job as admin (But that admin responded in disrespected way and said "stfu let me play there are many admins online you can report them"  to that player) that's where I jumped in and very politely said to that admin please don't disrespect others please it give bad impression. Its your duty that if players are complaining about some thing you should look into the matter rather than escalating things. or you could simple say " we got your report and we will see" but that admin keep arguing with people in game saying its not free server we paying for this that"

in nut shell people want admin to review that guy with 60 kills and 0 death but admin was trying to play so he fed up with people calling him in chat but this doesn't mean he start disrespecting people. there are many ways to handle situation. well talk continues and last admin raged and start saying to "Leave the game " to players and in mean time i type " Bro firs you saying people to stfu and now you saying leave the game being admin that's not suit you calm down

next step what he did he banned me from all servers
i want to ask that are such kind of people deserve to be admin? i mean one on higher positions (as admin) must respect others in polite better way must tolerate! disciplinary action should be taken against such people (Abusing and saying stfu to other people in game and saying them to leave because they saying you have a look into some issue is seems out of mind)

Kindly review this request and unban me as i don't use any abusive language or hacks i was just banned because i was telling admin not to insult people.

Currently i am not having screen shoot of chat because i am new to this kind of report and also this forum link was given to me by some admin on discord


My ban was unfair and was result of personal grudge kindly remove it

below are the images in which server i was playing last night


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JRMBelgiumTwitch

We will review your ban and keep you informed.

NorT

Hi JoJo,

I myself have had to deal with you before, Now let me break it down for you.

Rycvjk is a regular in our server and our admins have spent hours and hours and hours and hours spectating, recording and deliberating over wether he is a "cheater". and every admin is in agreement he is not a cheater.

This is something not only ive told you myself when you have complained but also something the admin in question yesterday explained. Now you have been told this upmost of 10 times. when you suspect a cheater report it via our discord or website, the reason being is if someone is cheating and someone writes in chat "this guy rycvjk cheats!" now if he was cheating and knew someone was coming to spectate him surely he would just turn them off? Thus our admin has to waste his/her time watching a player doing nothing wrong for 30-40 minutes. and with the fact BF in general has so many cheating issues our admins get barely any time to ACTUALLY PLAY. Now the thing is this has been explained why you should report on discord time and time again but you dont seem to get the message you have no idea how stupid it makes you look when you have been told dont do something 10+ times yet CONTINUE to do it.

If you suspect someone of cheating spectate record send it to us. We are all about making the servers as clean as possible but are not prepared to ban someone based of your or anyone elses word. we need footage/proof. Imagine how bad it would make us look if we just said "JoJo, told us you were hacking so we banned you" "Any proof?" "No" the same could apply to you. "JoJo is cheating" "Ok we will ban" Again..this is why we take proof/evidence.

You also mentioned that it is our "job" i can not tell you how disrespectful this is to us. First of we dont earn a penny for ourselves. We VOLUNTEER. all donations,tips whatever money we get of the community goes on the servers,events,website,discord bots, our assetto corsa server etc the leaders nor the admins take a single penny for themselves. so no it is not our "job".

When you were asked what did he kill you with? you said "hes an assault" Rycvjk tends to go on a horse....he steals it and uses it. thats it. thats why he was an assault.

You were banned because you didnt bother reporting , didnt bother spectating and being really disrespectful. Maybe now you can realise just how stupid you have been.

Also...Rycvjk is clean...Hes just good.

if hes on his horse. just AT Rocket.  

Jojo

Look first of all i didnt say its your job yes the other guy keep saying that his tag was REKT i just said you dont use word like stfu. you asked me once i told you that from how far he hit me in last game. In next game you keep arguing with other guys and i keep saying leave it just quite. and i didn't disrespect you in any way. currently you still blaming me that how stupid i am? wawo seriously nice choice of words. same thing happen yesterday that you get escalated on this stuff if you having screen shoots you can post lets see who was disrespectful me or you. One must admit his or her fault yesterday you called other players STFU and now you calling me stupid? seriously this raising questions that how swiftly you get exaugurated. we are talking here calmly and you still using that words stupid bla bla rather then admitting your fault.

2ndly ok he is clean then you can quite and ignore what other saying but you keep arguing with them. dont take it personal but you are deficient in dealing with verity of peoples. haven't seem such raged admin in my life  

Disce Pati

"you are deficient in dealing with verity of peoples. haven't seem such raged admin in my life"......  ::) can you not see how YOU deal with people is maybe not conducive to your unban request?

Jojo

its not about unban its about saying stfu and abusive words and still not admitting fault

Disce Pati

#6
"its not about unban"?..... yet your subject heading says "i got banned falsely" ........ so you lied on the subject heading then, in the Request to be Unbanned section? or else you would want unbanned, no?

.... think you are looking for the Admitting Fault section, please make another post in the appropriate part of the forum.

And please, specify the "and abusive words" if you can.

"in nut shell people want admin to review that guy with 60 kills and 0 death but admin was trying to play so he fed up with people calling him in chat"... but.....

The admin also told you he has been spec'd on numerous occasions by, lets be honest, nearly all the admins, and they found him to be legit.... 10's of hours of spectating by all, on ONE player
He also told you to report and posted the link telling you that 15+ admins were online and they would get pinged in discord.
He also said you can go spectate at any time to see how Ryczjvk played so well.
He also said you can record and post your findings on AMG discord.
He also said that player was a regular on the server and plays nearly all his games here and, again, has been spec'd many times.
He can only do so much to make you understand..... and yet you continued to hackusate in chat.....you DIDN'T put in a report, you DIDN'T spectate, you continued to(basically what amounts to) troll.
And after 15+ mins of saying report, spectate, record, he's legit, been spec'd many hours already, blah blah blah... yes... he also said if you don't like it then leave the server.
If you can't understand or believe an admin when he says he's legit and just a very good player ....then that server (that the accused plays on) is maybe not the place for you tbh.


P.S... calling out potential hackers in main chat is maybe NOT the best thing to do.... hackers can read (amazingly) and may turn cheats off when called out.....hence the repeated requests made to USE THE REPORT!!!
If a hacker WAS in the server and saw an admin leave when he is called out.... he just may turn any hacks off.

See how it works? It really IS that simple.



And when you say "lol, why you not just respect others :D" after earlier telling me its admins job, not ours..... you tell me.... who doesn't get respected for what they do for the community.

So you just play on, safe in the knowledge that admins from community servers have spectated and banned thousands of hackers in BF1 alone FOR community servers.... just for you to say "Its your duty that if players are complaining about some thing you should look into the matter".... we are already on it  8) and it's all free of charge.

Jojo

you typed long so there was you in that game?
My point was not that he hacker or not? Yes i do complaint him earlier and in response the admin asked me what stuff he using? in respond i said idk may be his class is SMG then i didnt complaint that he hacking. yes in mean time others start complaining
If you having ss you can post here and can see your self  

and as you said "And please, specify the "and abusive words" if you can" yes admin said stfu to other player thats where i typed "that dont disrespect the other people" i aint violated any rule in mean time when admin keep saying as you stated "report spectate whatever" i typed ok "he is legit end it here quite now" even i told a guy in my squad who was arguing with that "fed up admin" to remain quite but both keep arguing with each other.

And you said "And when you say "lol, why you not just respect others?" you know on what thing i typed that ?LOL? no i bet you dont know that + saying lol and saying stfu both having lot of difference between them.
and in very next game your fed up admin got so much fed up that he said to that {RKET player (who complaining about cheating with that admin and arguing with him)} leave the game then i typed this to your admin " Bro calm down fist you saying stfu now you saying leave the game? being admin that not suit you (that where his ego came in and he misuse his power and ban me) now tell me LOL is more disrespectful or STFU and leave the game is?

i agree he fed up but being an admin this type of behavior suits him? there are many ways to handle the situations point is he handled the entire situation wrongly (you didnt notice that i said that too "ok leave it let it go just play" )
and you saying """after earlier telling me its admins job, not ours..... you tell me.... who doesn't get respected"" these are not my words i know what i said these are word of that guy {REKT} in my squad don't put false allegation on me i know what i said " i admit i said you are admin you have to listen people" yes that's what i said

when admin was arguing with other people i also told him and others to stop and keep playing he didn't told you that? i tried to stop that escalation.

i don't know why you keep backing him up he not handle the situation properly that's the point and ban he provided is also due to his ego. when you dealing with public you have to be calm and find alternative route " oh wait you telling me that i said this and that then you might know that i said to admin this too while he was arguing with other players "finish the issue you can end this by saying we got your report we will see what we can do"

Point is he misuse his powers and unable to handle the situation properly

Disce Pati

#8
"And you said "And when you say "lol, why you not just respect others?" you know on what thing i typed that ?LOL? no i bet you dont know that"

Do you? Can you even remember saying it? and details make all the difference when quoting.... you missed the :D

And i find it strange that after all the arguing in game and how disrespectful you thought this admin was... you can't remember the admins name YET remember the exact details of a 15+ min conversation mixed in with other random chat.



Jojo

yes because i never give attention to his name there was so much chat there from other players name not matter what matter is context of conversation i though you people got details of chats and stuff but strange you don't (and i am sure i know what i said neither i enforce him to look or spec cheater i said once in previous ending game (the horse conversation when he asked me)) . and i said lol on someone else comment one player was arguing with admin for that I said lol coz he stated something now if admin thought i said lol on his comments then what can i do mean you start assuming stuff that every thing is for you then its his issue .

and yes i know why i type lol if you or admin assuming that lol is for you then I don't do anything in assuming least its not Word Like stfu?

strange you still not admitting his fault but rather putting pressure on word LOL which not even related to this issue


Disce Pati

#10
Dice do not facilitate the saving of conversations in BF1 chat, strange as you might think that is, but assumptions are like that.



"and i am sure i know what i said"... "and i said lol on someone else comment"...."now if admin thought i said lol on his comments then what can i do mean you start assuming stuff that every thing is for you then its his issue" ... "and yes i know why i type lol if you or admin assuming that lol is for you then I don't do anything in assuming"

No assumptions made by myself.... you lol'd every time the admin said something like go report or spectate.

"And you said "And when you say "lol, why you not just respect others?" you know on what thing i typed that ?LOL? no i bet you dont know that".... as you can see.... i do know when you said it.

And i KNOW what you said.... because i was the one that banned you.


Now please, can you maybe, just maybe see that your version of the chat isn't 100% accurate from memory?

.... or are you still 100% sure











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Disce Pati

#11
Do you even understand WHY i repeatedly told people to report.... to take 1 min out their lives to report a potential hackers that THEY are complaining about instead of 15mins of chat saying he defo cheating, his score says it all (based on assumption and not actual FACTS) , admin not doing his job, shouldn't be in the job and he should respect others ect ect?

... after 3 hours previously of sitting in spectate mode watching 64 players, watching anyone mentioned in chat, so they DON'T get pre-warned by me obviously leaving a game and therefore turn hacks off.



....and people wonder why admins don't take shit in chat  ::)



Jojo

yes i think you should also read what is ahead of LOL . so despite of fact you still not admitting that your behavior inn first place is far more offensive isn't it? Lol come under context of disrespect but stfu doesn't? why double standard mate? i if you having that ss you must have others too in which i also said to other players to stop arguing with you. don't you remember that? i was just telling you be be calm and respond accordingly.

Now answer honestly that stfu is more disrespectful or lol is more (well read ahead of lol too)? ball is in your court lets see how man of letters you are

Jojo

plus that 1 minute to go report green message is not for me you were talking to other guy who keep arguing with you you also say stfu to him for that i typed lol why dont you respect others  

Disce Pati

#14
That "take 1 min" was for EVERYONE that complained... of which YOU were one of them.

You are telling me you are sure what you said... i have proven otherwise... therefore you can't be actually sure of what YOU said to me in chat, when and how you said it.

Look, you're temp banned for trolling.... and that you done tbs... next time don't "jump in" like you said, and don't tell admin its THEIR job when they explained many times that the player was legit and why..... I told you to report, spectate, record ... you didn't.... you continued to argue in chat, even into the next game.

If you wan't leaders to look at it further... carry on... but you have to excuse me as i have better things to do, i'm 5 hours into just watching servers on my day off and only caught one hacker....


ps....... lol :D

Have a nice day.

Jojo

i am amazed that you still not accepting your fault i jumped in because you disrespecting people  why dont you just post screenshot of what you have said especially stfu?
admit your fault i jumped in because you were rude and disrespectful to others.
Truly amazed from your double standard one side your stfu v is normal and lOl is disrespectful hahaah get life man . try to admit your faults rather then covering them behind other
stuff .  
Better to read what is written in front of lol

well one thing is clear you lack some basic diplomatic relation skills.  

Disce Pati

lol, And by all means you are entitled to your opinion, have a nice day : D

Jojo

just a tip try to be polite to people whatever the situation is. making things escalated show intellectual incompetence try to tolerate stuff rather then . . .  

JRMBelgiumTwitch

Quote from: Jojo on 03 May 2021 18:09
just a tip try to be polite to people whatever the situation is. making things escalated show intellectual incompetence try to tolerate stuff rather then . . .

Jojo, it seems that you don't know when to quit. So let me help you by closing the topic.

You don't have to disrespect and insult others simply to hold your own ground. If you do, that shows how shaky your own position is.
Your ban will be lifted in a week or two.

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